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Dear Dr. THEROZ,

I look forward to your comments on New York clubs. I remain a non-dues paying Emeritus Member of The Explorers Club and Squadron A. I was a long time member of The Coffee House and the Downtown Association.

Regards,

Ron Rosner

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Correction: Ron

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Dear Dr. Thevoz, I am the long time member of the East India Club, with whom you had a brief conversation following your recent talk at the Cosmos Club. I was surprised that you did not include DACOR (Diplomatic and Consular Officers Retired) 1801 F Street, NW, especially as it is a reciprocal club of the National Liberal club, London.

Best regards,

Ronald Rosner

ronrosner@hotmail.com

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Thanks for getting in touch. I like DACOR Bacon House very much - I have visited, and was most impressed.

But I'm not sure I'd define it as first and foremost a social club - which is where we start to get into definitions (and I may be wrong, since these things can be entirely subjective!) They define themselves as being "an organization of foreign affairs professionals whose careers are defined by international impact." They're certainly a membership organisation, and they certainly have a beautiful building on the National Register of Historic Places. But the emphasis of the building seemed to me as a heritage mansion open to the public, rather than as a round-the-clock set of club facilities dedicated to members. But as I say, perhaps I'm wrong to omit them! The trouble with setting definitions is that when the boundaries become blurred around the type of organisation, there are arguably several dozen other organisations which would merit inclusion, and the above list could treble in size...

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Dear Thévoz,

I fully agree with your current assessment of DACOR as it presently contituted. . However, I go back 50 years when it was a pukka club with membership limited to retired US Foreign Service Officers.

I joined the East India in 1968, when I was US Consul in Karachi and a member of the Sind Club. I find little attention is being paid to the profound influence of its very large young (28-35) membership of the East India.

Regards,

Ro Rosner

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